Saturday and lads

Saturday, March 25th, 2017 11:36 pm
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I have an extra day off again (Monday) - hurrah! I ab dot a code wod I caughd from liddle A, oo was snodding me all ober ebery day lasd week - boo, cos I thought I might nip away for an overnighter somewhere, but I don't like to do that if I'm gonna spread germs... But maybe it'll go away tomorrow... The other flip side of having an extra day off is that Mrs is home for the rest of the week, and mother's help is always more difficult than sole-charge nanny (and R will certainly play up to it...) On the other side, Mrs has booked R in for an extra day of school after Easter, so I'll have three days a week with just wee A, which will be nice. And that's enough about work! What I really wanted to post was one of these... *g*
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I can't decide when this was taken... at the end of an op, when they've both realised it's all over and safe? Bodie's looking sort of grimly satisfied and Doyle is looking thoughtful... perhaps he's not sure the baddie deserved to die this time (like with Mickey Hamilton) - although he doesn't look as angry as he usually looks in that situation... Dunno - what do you think? *g*

Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiorenza-a.livejournal.com
...because I did too much and wiped myself out and now this is the most I can manage.

I think it's just after an op and they've just had a (mostly) unjustified rollicking from the Cow, who is venting his frustration with both a particularly wet-behind-the-ears Whitehall type and his gammy leg, which is playing up.

Doyle, eager to please, is now as non-plussed as a puppy who's fetched his master's shoe and can't understand why the master is not overjoyed at the chewed up offering - and Bodie, who knows life in general - and his in particular - never delivers much in the way of justice, is resigned to both his fate and the evening he'll have to spend explaining this universal truth to the eternally optimist golly.

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heliophile-oxon.livejournal.com
I think you may be close to the mark on this one, fiorenza_a! Bodie looks grimly resigned, and Doyle maybe very slightly shocked and disappointed; your scene-setting fits extremely well! *g*

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiorenza-a.livejournal.com

I thought it fitted the bill. I do love a bit of exploring the lads' motivations :0)

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 10:31 am (UTC)
murphybabe: (Murphy RT)
From: [personal profile] murphybabe
Erm... Doyle, eager to please - I find that quite hard to see! I like and agree with your reading of Bodie's expression, but may I suggest that Doyle is just sulking? Or, if I'm being a bit kinder, depressed - or tired?

Ack - sorry, got distracted and posted before I'd finished. I love the idea of poor Bodie just knowing that he'll have to deal with the fallout afterwards *g* And I bet Doyle is unaware that this happens every time!
Edited Date: 26/03/2017 10:33 am (UTC)

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm not sure that Doyle's eager-to-please either - especially not with his previous reputation as a rebel and trouble-maker in the police, and the way he speaks to Cowley alot of the time! Bodie might even be more likely to sulk sometimes if his efforts aren't acknowledged - in Stopover he's the one who's sarcastic to Meredith, and in Lawson's Last Stand he definitely looks sulky when Cowley tells him he's out of breath instead of saying "Good running, 3.7"! But I also like the idea of Bodie coping with Doyle's fallout... *vbg*

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiorenza-a.livejournal.com

Doyle does have a reputation - but the subtext is usually that he's anti-corruption, not ill-disciplined. He's not rebelling against authority, he's rebelling against its abuse.

I love a sulky Bodie, I'd be tempted to mistreat him just to watch him pout!

Which, come to think of it, might just explain some of Doyle's behaviour...

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Yeah, he's rebelling against corruption and unfairness and inequality and all those things that are good to rebel against - but I still don't see him as eager-to-please, not the way he talks to Cowley and various other people in authority. There's a difference between being competent and idealistic about your reasons for doing a job, and wanting to do well so as to please your boss, and I'd say Doyle was well and truly the former rather than the latter.

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiorenza-a.livejournal.com

I wasn't exactly meaning that Doyle was motivated by praise, I think he's a man in competition with himself, I think he'd always strive for excellence.

I was more thinking that he needs that nod from the teacher to be happy - and therefore seeks it. That his sergeant and superiors acknowledge his competence. He doesn't need it to know he's good, or to strive for excellence, it just that's the difference between him leaving the class with a smile on his face or not.

I've never really seen Doyle as idealistic, I know Cowley categorises him as that, but that's by CI5's standards. By CI5's standards he might pass as that, but Geraldine Mather is an idealist by any standard and she doesn't see a kindred spirit in Doyle.

I always think Doyle's idealism, if that's what it is, is more an attempt to atone for his sins. If he saves a few waifs and strays he makes up for all the mayhem. He can look Ann Holly in the face and call himself a good man.

I've always seen Doyle as pretty disillusioned about the world, continually trying to salvage what he can from the wreckage. Whereas Bodie seems to incline towards optimism informed by pragmatism.

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiorenza-a.livejournal.com

I can see where you're coming from, but for me Doyle always comes across as a frustrated head boy. In my book a rebel doesn't join the police to get some discipline. And Doyle's rages usually come about because someone somewhere broke the rules. Even if that 'someone' is the universe not playing fair.

For me, Doyle thrives on validation - look at the lengths to which he goes with Ann Holly. But there's a difference between being thirsty for praise and brown-nosing. Doyle's not after empty words and I don't think he'd give two hoots for the good opinion of someone he didn't respect. But he's a man of good deeds and I think the good opinion of the people he respects matters to him. I think he needs to hear it. But he's not a milk sop, so he won't be deterred by the odd pane of glass.

Bodie, on the other hand, always strikes me as someone who made up his own rules. A life in the services, civilian, unorthodox and military, has ingrained him with a sense of propriety. He's house trained. But Bodie's like a terrier - tenacious, characterful and selectively deaf to discipline. And willing to pay the price of that.

And no, I don't think Doyle has the first clue what a pain he is to live with, bless him! :0)

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Lol - I definitely don't see Doyle as a frustrated head boy, especially not with what he says about his childhood in Mixed Doubles! I also don't see Doyle chasing Ann Holly for validation, not at all! She was a reflection of a life that he perhaps wanted to live, and a person he wanted to be when he was feeling disillusioned - she was very clear that she didn't believe in what he did for a living, so there was no validation going to come there! People talk about Ann Holly wanting to change Doyle, and how unfair that was, but it was always Doyle who was trying to change by dating her. He presented himself as someone who could live up to her ideals - even though at the end of the day he chose his original lifestyle, which didn't match the ideals that he was hoping to borrow from her.

In his own words, Doyle "was a right tearaway", and a successful one - he "got away with it, every time". So at some point the rebel did join the police to get some discipline (you're not a "tearaway" without rebelling against something, even if you don't know what it is). "frustrated headboy" seems unlikely with that background - and in the police he's described as having "run ins" with his superiors - again, not the stuff that headboys are made of!

and I think the good opinion of the people he respects matters to him
Evidence! Show me the evidence in canon! Actually I think it's pretty standard, that we all want the good opinion of people we respect, but I can't think of anything in the eps that takes that further for Doyle than for Bodie - and in fact I can think of evidence for the opposite.

Doyle, eager to please, is now as non-plussed as a puppy who's fetched his master's shoe and can't understand why the master is not overjoyed at the chewed up offering
It's a cute image, and perhaps matches the look on his face in the pic, but it doesn't fit with the Doyle I see and hear about in the eps!

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 27/03/2017 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiorenza-a.livejournal.com

People talk about Ann Holly wanting to change Doyle

Yep, agree absolutely on that one. Ann out to change Doyle is one of my fiction turnoffs, boot's definitely on the other foot.

Right tearaway

Mmmm, I actually think you can be a tearaway without being a rebel. A tearaway is usually defined as being someone who is reckless, hot-headed, untamed, which is Doyle. Although I agree you don't need to know what you're rebelling against to be a rebel, it is a reactive state, so I can't see how Doyle's rebellion could start until he ran up against authority, which wouldn't have happened unless he was caught. But I would say Doyle's run ins with his superiors, corrupt or otherwise, come more from his fearless disregard for consequences.

Evidence! Show me the evidence in canon!

Ooo, I love a challenge! If we're discounting Ann Holly (and I can't recall Bodie ever attempting to justify himself in the same way) and we're saying all the run of the mill bids for recognition cancel each other out because Bodie would have done the same in his own way - I'd argue for things like Doyle's histrionic resignation in Involvement (you can't shorten an ep title to just 'I', it just looks silly!) - when as an ex-copper he should see the operational necessity, even if he finds it profoundly distasteful. And his self-doubt in 'Heat'. He perks up no end when Cowley assures him his original evidence was balanced and fair, when he must have known it couldn't have been otherwise. Doyle would have been scrupulous on that point, precisely because of his personal feelings. He must know that about himself.

What was your evidence to the contrary? I always love hearing other people's take on the lads.

Doyle isn't "eager-to-please"!

Date: 27/03/2017 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
I actually think you can be a tearaway without being a rebel. A tearaway is usually defined as being someone who is reckless, hot-headed, untamed
Those are the current internet definitions for "tearaway", but in fact it also suggests that someone was acting illegally in some way, or against the rules. If someone was described as a "tearaway" at school it would suggest they didn't do as they were told by their teachers, for instance, and were hard to control. (The internet definitions hint at that when they give synonyms like "hoodlum" and "ruffian".) Doyle as a CI5 agent is reckless, hot-headed and untamed (and so is Bodie, come to that - e.g. in MWaP) but he describes himself as a "tearaway" as a kid, "I cut up another kid..." and not just once because he says in MD that he got away with it "every time". If you're behaving illegally then you're rebelling against something - authority, parents, society, other people in general - and you aren't worried about pleasing people, and you're definitely not eager-to-please. You also don't have to be caught/directly fight with an authority figure to be rebelling against it.

I can't see how Doyle's rebellion could start until he ran up against authority, which wouldn't have happened unless he was caught
"Authority" doesn't mean only the police - as soon as we're born we're under the authority of parents, society (social rules and the law), teachers...

If we're discounting Ann Holly (and I can't recall Bodie ever attempting to justify himself in the same way)
Just because Bodie doesn't do something, it doesn't mean that Doyle does do something!

As I said above, Doyle isn't trying to justify himself by dating Ann Holly - he sees someone that he presumably lusts over, gets to know her a bit better and admires her too, and begins to fall in love with her. It might even be the fact that she is something of a rebel - she doesn't just swoon and say "yes sir, no sir" when Doyle goes back to the flat, she questions his actions, and justifications (given to her - "its my job"). It all comes at a time when Doyle is also questioning the job, especially when Benny dies, and so he feels even closer to her. Unfortunately for their relationship he does believe in what he's doing. If he was "eager to please" Ann then he'd resign and get a less violent job somewhere, but he doesn't, he finally admits he won't change, and chooses the job.

and we're saying all the run of the mill bids for recognition cancel each other out
What bids for recognition? Run of the mill or otherwise? When does Doyle actually do something simply to please someone else? You say these times exist, but you've not described any, so I don't know what you're suggesting as evidence here.

Doyle's histrionic resignation in Involvement ... when as an ex-copper he should see the operational necessity, even if he finds it profoundly distasteful.
Now I'm confused! Who's he trying to please by doing that? How does it suggest he's eager to please? (And in fact he does see the operational necessity, because when he feels he's found better evidence, he does go and join in with the CI5 action - but being in love with someone and being told they're possibly a major criminal is bound to cause a reaction stronger than "distaste"!)

RE: Doyle isn't "eager-to-please"!

Date: 27/03/2017 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
cont....

his self-doubt in 'Heat'...
Again, I don't see that as evidence of being "eager to please" - it's evidence of wanting to stop criminals and see justice done rather than lock up innocent people, which is a good thing in any police/law enforcement officer, and I'd hope a prerequisite for being one! If he was eager to please then he wouldn't have doubted at all - he'd have pointed out that yes-sir-they-got-the-bloke-wot-did-it-case-closed-sir. Especially since Cowley said all along that he thought Doyle had got it right! So in fact his self-doubt in Heat is better evidence of my stance than yours - Doyle's not interested in being eager to please or patted on the head (which Cowley does throughout), he just wants to have done the job right and in fact he causes more trouble for Cowley and everyone by trying to ensure that the original conviction was sound!

What was your evidence to the contrary? I always love hearing other people's take on the lads.
Okay - canon that suggests Doyle is not worried about pleasing other people/does not need praise from other people to be happy in his job:
- the way he treats the police they cooperate with at the end of ODwNT - he's certainly not angling for the officer he takes over from to praise him, nor is he trying to please him, he'd've been much more placatory in that case.
- Klansmen where he tells Cowley he's going to investigate no matter what - if he was trying to please Cowley and earn praise then he'd follow Cowley's orders...
- PMPD at the end - if he was eager to please authority/his boss then he would have done what Cowley said, not followed Bodie in disobeying Cowley's orders
- and then of course the various evidence already provided - "histrionic resigning" isn't an attempt to please someone or earn praise! Continuing with a job someone criticises isn't an attempt to please someone or earn praise. And being a "tearaway" isn't an attempt to earn praise (except perhaps from other tearaways!)

But from a few things you say above, I suspect that might not be what you're addressing any more, so I wonder if you're now talking about something different to my original point (that I don't see Doyle as eager to please/a "frustrated headboy").

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
(I got halfway through replying, was distracted when the phone rang, and now everyone else has replied to you!)

I can see those as just-had-a-rollicking faces! Although I reckon Bodie would be just as nonplussed as Doyle would be - they both seem to appreciate a bit of praise from Cowley (and both miss it when it's not there - I keep thinking of Stopover, and Ojuka). I'm not sure that Doyle's actually eager-to-please so much as eager-to-do-things-right, but he does have that thoughtful-as-well-as-crossed-by-someone look on his face, doesn't he!

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiorenza-a.livejournal.com

I agree about Doyle's eager-to-do-things-right, he's not a girly-swot, but I think getting top marks in class matter to him.

And the current Army guide to leadership talks about the power of a well placed 'well done'. I think Bodie is exactly the sort of personality that would respond to that - and feel its absence.

Think you're right about them both appreciating a bit of praise from Cowley, but - to my mind - it's for different reasons. I think Doyle needs to know teacher thinks he's done okay, but - to me - Bodie is always looking for something more personal. So Doyle is looking for validation from the boss, but Bodie needs to hear something from Cowley. Bodie's loyalty always seems more personal somehow.
Edited Date: 26/03/2017 10:33 pm (UTC)

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 26/03/2017 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
but - to my mind - it's for different reasons...Doyle is looking for validation from the boss, but Bodie needs to hear something from Cowley
Well, our minds are all free to see things differently (and more interesting it makes the world *g*), but I must admit I need to understand how someone is seeing a particular piece of canon to make their interpretation if I'm going to go along with it. I really can't think of anything in the eps that suggests Doyle wants "teacher" (any authority figure) to approve of him, whereas Bodie wants Cowley especially to approve of him. I see them both enjoying praise from Cowley, and both being sarcastic when Meredith (for example) takes them for granted, but I also see them both disrespecting authority figures on occasion, and often gleefully.

That said, I do agree that Bodie comes across as being loyal to people just because he knows them (not just Cowley, but Benny and Keller for instance), whereas Doyle tends to be loyal to people because he believes in them doing the right thing (Jack Stone, even Mickey Hamilton). Doyle describes Cowley as "the best man I've worked for", despite the times Cowley's set them up - he trusts Cowley's got good reasons for what he does. Bodie is more likely to joke around with Cowley than Doyle is, but then Doyle tends to get short shrift when he tries it, whereas Cowley tolerates Bodie's jokes more (sometimes!) So there's also an element of them both reacting to the differences in the way Cowley sees them too... but still, I can't see that as Doyle wanting validation any more than Bodie does!

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 27/03/2017 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiorenza-a.livejournal.com
I need to understand how someone is seeing a particular piece of canon to make their interpretation if I'm going to go along with it

I think that's a perfectly sound position to take. I don't mind people extrapolating from canon (citing the engagement rings Doyle was supposed to have on the chain round his neck, or info from the annuals etc. as secondary sources), but if you're making an argument for character I think it should be founded in canon - even if we all then apply a different interpretation. Was Cowley curmudgeonly, or just tired and in pain? That sort of thing.

So things like wanting to be seen as a 'good guy' by Ann would count for me. Also, you have to take Doyle's praise with a pinch of salt since his previous bosses were apparently a bunch of criminals! But assuming Doyle meant of the more upstanding officers he worked for - yes, I think Doyle rates Cowley. And I think he would place a premium on Cowley's zero tolerance of corruption. Especially as Cowley is far better placed to exploit/foster it, if he so chose.

By 'Cowley' I meant Bodie seems to place more weight on the personal - not necessarily just Cowley. But Bodie does appear to have a loyalty to him that extends beyond the job. Doyle is still wallowing in self-pity when Bodie goads him into helping Cowley because 'the old man' needs them. And their chin wags tend to personal revelation in a way that doesn't seem to happen with Doyle.

Minor things like Doyle's seeming surprise when Cowley informs him that it's not just Bodie who gets up his nose. It's moments like that which give me the impression that Doyle sees himself as more of a choirboy than Bodie. And oblique evidence - like Doyle spiking Bodie's more ill-judged jokes. It's times like that when, for me, Doyle comes across as the prefect to Bodie's naughty school boy. Whether that's innate, or whether that's the result of working for the police who have a public relations role the army wouldn't view as core business in the same light is difficult to say. And Bodie never claims to have done anything for the discipline it might give him, despite the fact that he seems to have joined CI5 under a bit of a cloud. And before that he jumped ship. And at about the same time Doyle signs up to upholding the law, Bodie is running guns and possibly worse. And while Bodie may wince at broken windows, it's Doyle who scolds Bodie for his house breaking. One act is complicit, the other censorious. It's all these little things that add up and lead me to seeing Doyle as seeing himself as 'teachers pet' material and Bodie as someone who regards authority as collateral inconvenience.

Someone else might add these things up differently, but that's how they add up for me.

RE: Okay, I'll play...

Date: 27/03/2017 08:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
when Cowley informs him that it's not just Bodie who gets up his nose
Which ep/scene is that?

like Doyle spiking Bodie's more ill-judged jokes
Again, when does he do that?

And their chin wags tend to personal revelation in a way that doesn't seem to happen with Doyle.
I can only think of Bodie trying to comfort Cowley by talking about the girl who killed herself in Africa - what other chinwags and "personal revelations" are you thinking of between them?

while Bodie may wince at broken windows, it's Doyle who scolds Bodie for his house breaking
Lol - but he did it with a laugh, and only because Bodie might have got caught by the house owner (which he did), not because he disapproves of what he did! E.g. he breaks into Shelley Hunter's flat to sabotage her water heater, so he can't disapprove of house-breaking in the course of the job that much.

Bodie never claims to have done anything for the discipline it might give him, despite the fact that he seems to have joined CI5 under a bit of a cloud. And before that he jumped ship. And at about the same time Doyle signs up to upholding the law, Bodie is running guns and possibly worse.
Jumping ship and running guns etc. is equivalent to Doyle being a "tearaway" and never being caught when he was young - it's just slightly different timing/geography/opportunity. Ultimately Bodie came back to the UK and joined the army - you don't get much more "disciplinary" than that! Except perhaps the SAS, which he also joined, and then CI5. Like Doyle in the police "run-ins with your superiors", Bodie was accused by a former boss of not always "toeing the line", but I wouldn't go so far as to interpret that as "leaving under a cloud" (I'd wonder at Cowley for taking him on in that case, too).

So yeah, we're definitely adding things up differently - and I think interpreting them differently when we see them on screen, too!

Date: 26/03/2017 09:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milomaus.livejournal.com
Ah, nasty germs... hope you feel better soon.
Did they steel an hour of your time this weekend, too?
It's ten thirty here, but the clocks say it's already eleven thirty...

I think it looks like the bad guy of the week blew himself up this time.
Bodie looks kinda 'oops, that was painful', and Doyle is all 'ouch'.

How's the weather?
We have dreamy sunshine!

Date: 26/03/2017 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
We have dreamy sunshine too - though yeah, they did steal an hour of it! And hee - cos about an hour after you posted, my clocks say 11.30 too, when it's really 10.30, and I sort of frowned at that for a minute until I remembered that you were an hour ahead of us anyway... *g*

Nasty germs is nasty - I was hoping they'd just be kiddie-germs and my grown-up-immune-system might beat them before they got started, but no... Oh well, so far it's not too bad - and perhaps it's better to have a cold when you're not working too...

Doyle does look like he's thinking "ouch" - yes! And Bodie would just be thinking "oops" in contrast, wouldn't he... *g* I like to think that this time they'll go off and have a pint together, and then go home for a bit of comfort... *vbg*

Date: 26/03/2017 09:55 am (UTC)
ext_9226: (snaily-snow - snailbones)
From: [identity profile] snailbones.livejournal.com


Oh noes - bad germs! Why are kiddie germs so much more potent anyway?

Yay for the extra time off though. I hope you're feeling perky enough to enjoy it. \o/


I love the pic of the lads - and [livejournal.com profile] fiorenza_a's explanation, too! Brilliant. Can't top that - to me they look like they've just spent the last hour chasing bad guys, and instead of getting to go off down the pub, Cowley's just found another chore for them to do... they look seriously unimpressed *g*

Date: 26/03/2017 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Kiddie germs really are strong, aren't they... maybe next time I'll beat them down! I just wish I could stop getting sick on the weekends when I have an extra day off... argh!

Lol for Fiorenza's explanation. I can see the rollicking happening, but I'm not convinced that Doyle is eager-to-please as part of his personality to be honest. He likes to get it right, and get the job done properly, with the baddies all safely away, but I reckon Bodie's just as likely to want acknowledgement from Cowley when the job is done properly... remember him sulking at the end of Lawson's Last Stand, when Cowley noted that he was out of breath rather than saying "well done"! Poor under-appreciated lads... luckily they can appreciate each other... *vbg*

Date: 26/03/2017 10:38 am (UTC)
murphybabe: (Murphy RT)
From: [personal profile] murphybabe
Sorry you're full of cold. I hope it clears quickly and that you soon run through all the new bugs you're being exposed to and become nicely immune. It will happen soon, I'm sure. And good that R gets an extra day of school, it will do her good, and it will be nice for you to have the extra day with little A.

I like your question. Aaaaaand... it made me think: shall we set up a Proswatch? What do you think? Next weekend, perhaps? Over the whole weekend so that people can play whatever they are doing? (says me because I'm out on the Saturday night *g*) I even have a suggestion for an ep this time! Whaddya think?

Date: 26/03/2017 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
I was hoping I might beat the kiddie-bugs down this time, but the wee germ factory that is A. seems to be strong! And she will go around tasting things! I've never seen a kiddie do that before - she'll touch her finger to something and then taste it. Clearly a hunter-gatherer in her previous life, but in this life in this world I reckon there are more germ-y bugs for her to pick up than anything else... Oh well.

And yes, let's do a Proswatch next weekend - sounds good to me! You gonna post an announcement on Safehouse, perhaps, so people have lots of notice? I'm intrigue by what your ep suggestion might be too, and what theme it might be based on... *g*

Date: 26/03/2017 10:56 am (UTC)
murphybabe: (Murphy RT)
From: [personal profile] murphybabe
Yes, will do. Ulp - I'd forgotten I'd said about themes though *g* Off to find what I said and sort out something that might work!

Date: 26/03/2017 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Lol - just an ep then... but I'll be wondering what made you choose it unless you say... *vbg*

Date: 26/03/2017 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solosundance.livejournal.com
I think Bodie's irritated that the photo's being taken (although he can't help posing), and Doyle's just hoping the plonker's got the safety on or he'll lose his ear.

Nice pic though, very nice pic!

And I hope your code gets better sood.

Date: 26/03/2017 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
That is my favourite interpretation so far! *vbg* It is a nice pic too, isn't it... I like to think that it's not Doyle's hand between them, but Bodie's hand on Doyle's arm.

And dank oo!

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