TW fic rec - Intersecting Geodesics by NancyBrown

This is the long fic I found yesterday, that I was really hopeful about - and it's good! It is good! And it's long (though never, ever long enough...*g*) It's Jack/Ianto, and it's post-CoE, but it's also a glimpse of Jack's past, and... it's brill. *g*

Intersecting Geodesics by nancybrown

TW fic rec - Intersecting Geodesics by NancyBrown

This is the long fic I found yesterday, that I was really hopeful about - and it's good! It is good! And it's long (though never, ever long enough...*g*) It's Jack/Ianto, and it's post-CoE, but it's also a glimpse of Jack's past, and... it's brill. *g*

Intersecting Geodesics by nancybrown

TW rec and Rambling (briefly) and...

Is it an upside or a downside of my current job that I have spent practically two whole days at work reading TW fic? Here's another gorgeous 19,000 words of perfect Ianto and Gwen and Jack and - well, all of them really, I like the characterisation alot. And I find I've a penchant for the team together while Jack was away, and cos then there's generally Jack/Ianto reunion, but it's not just happy and fluffy cos TW isn't. Although in Club Wales Ianto and Gwen eat pizza together on the floor in Ianto's flat, and... just yeay.

Club Wales by pocky_slash

Also, my lj is looking totally TW because I've been posting Pros-y things over at the comms as well. I should post some Pros-y things here, shouldn't I... Just so people aren't mislead... you know, what with the whole Pros-y blue theme still going on and all...

Ramble much?

I didn't want this fic to end, not least because now I have to find something else to doooooooo!

TW rec and Rambling (briefly) and...

Is it an upside or a downside of my current job that I have spent practically two whole days at work reading TW fic? Here's another gorgeous 19,000 words of perfect Ianto and Gwen and Jack and - well, all of them really, I like the characterisation alot. And I find I've a penchant for the team together while Jack was away, and cos then there's generally Jack/Ianto reunion, but it's not just happy and fluffy cos TW isn't. Although in Club Wales Ianto and Gwen eat pizza together on the floor in Ianto's flat, and... just yeay.

Club Wales by pocky_slash

Also, my lj is looking totally TW because I've been posting Pros-y things over at the comms as well. I should post some Pros-y things here, shouldn't I... Just so people aren't mislead... you know, what with the whole Pros-y blue theme still going on and all...

Ramble much?

I didn't want this fic to end, not least because now I have to find something else to doooooooo!

Pros-y history...

So, was chatting with inamac over at ci5hq about Pros and Pros fandom history (just a wee bit... *g*) and for various reasons I wandered over to the OTP's Fanlore page for Pros, and was reminded yet again of why I try to avoid it... I'm not sure how many people have contributed to it (two at least, I can see that) but... it's so American-based! And so innaccurate in places (Palelyloitering is not a list!! I wouldn't mind, but I know that one of the wiki editors knows this!) and blurry/fudgy in others (a "chippy" is a fish and chip shop anywhere, not just in central London)! And so difficult to do anything about, because you have to sign up and figure out and become an "editor" and blah blah blah... and I know, if I'm going to complain then I should do something about it, but... I've not had time to work it all out, and...

Anyway - unless I'm missing something, the very first mention of Pros fandom goes straight into American fandom with mention of the American paper circuit library. The rest of the paragraph is more general, but because it all follows that first statement about American Pros fandom, the implication (intended or not) is very definitely that that's where Pros fandom is based. There is a single sentence in a new paragraph mentioning that the UK-based paper circuit was still active in 2008...

In the Discussion pages, there seems to be a defence of using Close Quarters as an example of a Pros-specific convention too - the argument being that Nattercon (which is the UK-based Pros con that celebrated its 20th anniversary this year) isn't Pros-specific. Which also caused me to blink. It's been a Pros-specific con ever since I've been - yes, there are people there who are into other fandoms now (because you know, presumably when approaching 20 years in a fandom you might glance elsewhere) but it's always been based very specifically around Pros, as far as I know... (I suspect the statement was made in response to the slight controversy caused when other fandoms were introduced two years ago to the Saturday Night Pros Trivia Quiz...)

I might be mistaken about this, but I've definitely not had the impression that Pros started off as an American-based fandom - and it doesn't seem very likely, since it was barely aired over there... Of course, there's not alot of information around (online) about the start of Pros fandom, so perhaps it's not surprising that there's such a headdesk-y entry...

So... I was wondering, what do people know about the start of Pros fandom? In the UK? In America? Australia (somehow completely left out too, and yet look at Jane, major part of Pros fandom, like her or not!)? There are French Pros zines too, and presumably a big German contingent still, and I think there's at least one German-based "group" where fanfic is written - what about that? How much is being missed from the OTP's wiki pages, that purport to be about all of us?

Anyone got any info/snippets they'd care to share here? For the sake of more accurately recording history?! *g*

ETA - I think perhaps I'll start editing this to include information that people have (or that I can glean accurately from t'interweb, like when the_safehouse was founded, for example... *g* Each piece of info sourced so it can be traced back... Let me know what I'm missing, especially the non-lj stuff! (Working on it right now, so a little messy - sorry! Will tidy up, I promise!)

( Pros Fandom History So Far Known )

Pros-y history...

So, was chatting with inamac over at ci5hq about Pros and Pros fandom history (just a wee bit... *g*) and for various reasons I wandered over to the OTP's Fanlore page for Pros, and was reminded yet again of why I try to avoid it... I'm not sure how many people have contributed to it (two at least, I can see that) but... it's so American-based! And so innaccurate in places (Palelyloitering is not a list!! I wouldn't mind, but I know that one of the wiki editors knows this!) and blurry/fudgy in others (a "chippy" is a fish and chip shop anywhere, not just in central London)! And so difficult to do anything about, because you have to sign up and figure out and become an "editor" and blah blah blah... and I know, if I'm going to complain then I should do something about it, but... I've not had time to work it all out, and...

Anyway - unless I'm missing something, the very first mention of Pros fandom goes straight into American fandom with mention of the American paper circuit library. The rest of the paragraph is more general, but because it all follows that first statement about American Pros fandom, the implication (intended or not) is very definitely that that's where Pros fandom is based. There is a single sentence in a new paragraph mentioning that the UK-based paper circuit was still active in 2008...

In the Discussion pages, there seems to be a defence of using Close Quarters as an example of a Pros-specific convention too - the argument being that Nattercon (which is the UK-based Pros con that celebrated its 20th anniversary this year) isn't Pros-specific. Which also caused me to blink. It's been a Pros-specific con ever since I've been - yes, there are people there who are into other fandoms now (because you know, presumably when approaching 20 years in a fandom you might glance elsewhere) but it's always been based very specifically around Pros, as far as I know... (I suspect the statement was made in response to the slight controversy caused when other fandoms were introduced two years ago to the Saturday Night Pros Trivia Quiz...)

I might be mistaken about this, but I've definitely not had the impression that Pros started off as an American-based fandom - and it doesn't seem very likely, since it was barely aired over there... Of course, there's not alot of information around (online) about the start of Pros fandom, so perhaps it's not surprising that there's such a headdesk-y entry...

So... I was wondering, what do people know about the start of Pros fandom? In the UK? In America? Australia (somehow completely left out too, and yet look at Jane, major part of Pros fandom, like her or not!)? There are French Pros zines too, and presumably a big German contingent still, and I think there's at least one German-based "group" where fanfic is written - what about that? How much is being missed from the OTP's wiki pages, that purport to be about all of us?

Anyone got any info/snippets they'd care to share here? For the sake of more accurately recording history?! *g*

ETA - I think perhaps I'll start editing this to include information that people have (or that I can glean accurately from t'interweb, like when the_safehouse was founded, for example... *g* Each piece of info sourced so it can be traced back... Let me know what I'm missing, especially the non-lj stuff! (Working on it right now, so a little messy - sorry! Will tidy up, I promise!)

( Pros Fandom History So Far Known )