Mixed Doubles, Single Malt

[byslantedlight]

Was so shattered when I got home last night that I grabbed a single malt and settled down with Mixed Doubles, which I haven't seen for a while but is one of my faves. And despite planning to watch it just for watching, I found myself getting out lists - Bodie calls Doyle "Ray" once - Bodie has borrowed a shirt from Doyle - etc etc! Guess this means I'm sinking in deeper... at least the water's warm!

AND I ordered more zines yesterday too... I'm desperately wanting Roses and Lavender 5, mind, and I can't see it anywhere about. Its the one apparently with another Elizabeth O'Shea fic - which is, of course, why I want it.

Well, there are the nine o clock bells. I feel a nasty kind of working-pumpkin-ness coming on...

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Re: Welcome to the jungle

[minesapint.livejournal.com]

***Cor, the wonders of technology, with you in Alaska?

And Lyon didn't let her off the hook about that either, did she (to get back to something approaching the original thread for a second!) - would have been very tempting to show us how worthy she was really, since she was the "heroine" of the piece. But no.

***Good point.

iberal/illiberal though, its not as simple as that, is it? (Besides, I never quite understand those terms, is that cos I'm a Brit?)

***well I'm a brit too and I agree that I don't think it is simple. Achieving a balance of interests in society (because I believe that's really what politics (generally) amounts to in modern society)is the hardest thing *to* achieve. Especially in a multi-cultural society. But I think a lot of issues can be deconstructed to the age old question of how liberal, 'reasonable' people confront people with different versions of reason without succumbing to the tactics they deplore i.e. illiberal tactics.

And I get the impression that Doyle is a card-carrying Labour-voter (Labour-back-then I mean, not this version - or, well, maybe the Libs come to think of it, he is a bit idealistic...), although I don't suppose for one minute that Bodie would be! And yet Doyle does the job he does... (ooh, we may also have caught up on the layers thread!)

****I think Bodie has his own ideals, which may not be those of the traditional left-of-centre, but are nevertheless ideals. Yes, I'd say Doyle was Labour, certainly not Conservative, maybe he wouldn't have voted at all? Too idealistic. Or maybe, like many people who think a lot or too much, no party *could* suit his ideals completely. Bodie's voting intentions are an interesting thought. I think Bodie, like Doyle but in a different way, could be another person who could survive without governmental help/interference as much as possible. I think Doyle and Bodie could have survived in Martin Shaw's Scottish croft for a long time. They're true individuals. Anarchists even? There's a thin line between acting *above* the law and acting without it. Boom, boom. Discuss. You've got three hours.

Yes I agree, I'm not sure anything's ever caused purely by bad policy, after all its humans who act on the policies, its up to us to judge situations. But the trouble with being human is that its just that - human. Whoever it was who did the shooting is really just you or me with a different job and different responsibilities...

***I agree. There but for the grace of god and all that.

Just rereading another story today which features our beloved Geraldine Mather: 'Another turn of the Rack' by the classic Pros writer, Meg Lewtan. It's on the Pros CD but I think I could email it to you if you haven't got it. Let me know. Cheers for now pb.

Re: Welcome to the jungle

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

***Cor, the wonders of technology, with you in Alaska?

ooh, I know, aint the internet grand?!

****I think Bodie has his own ideals, which may not be those of the traditional left-of-centre, but are nevertheless ideals.

Ye-es, he must presumably have some ideals to do the job he does without being simply a mercenary. And presumably he could be much better paid in Africa etc for that. I find it alot more obscure what Bodie's ideals are though - a quiet life for everyone? I somehow can't see him voting at all, he's probably a touch too cynical about it all for that.

maybe Doyle wouldn't have voted at all?

Ooh, not sure about that. I can imagine him spending long long hours in the pub trying to convince Bodie that he should vote, that it'll never get better unless everyone makes an effort, etc etc. He seems to hold onto the "real" - hmmn - more conventional? - world a little bit more tightly than Bodie, who seems more the pure anarchist type to me. Doyle's flats always seem homey, but Bodie's... (although I'm still researching this one - darn it, back to the eps.. ; ) And Doyle's attempt (hah - alleged, I'm not convinced!) with Anne Holly to settle down, whereas even Cowley taunts Bodie that he never will.

They're true individuals. Anarchists even? There's a thin line between acting *above* the law and acting without it.

Yeah, definitely I'd say. I wonder how it would come out if they didn't do the jobs they did... And of course not all laws are good ones - being made by humans and all that. All Cowley's murky breaking the "bad" rules thing - we all pick and choose, I reckon, that's why guns are so dangerous... wait, squirling into some deep hole here, not sure where I'm going... Oh I know, perhaps because CI5 do act both above the law and without it... Cowley's smallprint lets 'em. Controlled anarchy? No, wait, must ponder that some more before I start making even less sense, and going backwards! It was that three hour deadline got to me... ; )

I think Doyle and Bodie could have survived in Martin Shaw's Scottish croft for a long time.

Oh dear, I feel a fic coming on!! Maybe they'll both wear wellies! I 'spect they would if they had to, but I'm not sure they'd choose it, given any other druthers at all! They're both pretty city - they seem to potter off to the country at the weekend, like good citylads do, but I've not noticed either of them yearning for it... and Bodie came back from Africa...

And finally - I've just ordered the Pros CD, though I guess I'll have to wait a bit. Be interesting to see another aspect of Mather, its true! I haven't read any Meg Lewtan yet - I'm not a big AU fan to be honest, at least not so far, and I gather that's what she mostly does? I've read a couple of sort-of-AUs that have amused me, but they tend to be twistings of the real world, rather than complete AUs. But if she's done some "proper" stuff too (what do you call it?) then I'll give her a go!