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Oh yeay - I'm home, and it's ProsWatch - and it's Wild Justice no less! Wheeeee! *g*

Straight into the (eighties!) high-tech action here - a monitor showing us what's going on in what's obviously a nasty hostage situation. They're not responding to polite greetings in their own tongue from men on loudhailers! An agent in camo and balaclava takes a message up to the roof of the building, to where our lads are working out their plans... and yes! *Hugs* lads! Doyle not only gives Bodie a goodbye smack on his leg as he heads off - he says "See you, sunshine!"


I've never heard that before! *hugs tv with excellent speakers* *vbg* So we're straight in with the slash, and gods but I've missed our lads while I was away... *happy, happy grin*

Doyle looking ever so agile as well, negotiating that roof... they're all getting into place... shades of the Embassy seige, of course... gunfire - screams! And ack - Bodie unmasked! It's an exercise, Doyle's cross... not just shout-y, but really cross that Bodie's mucking up...

Yeay lovely credits!

Doyle flicks Bodie a glance as they come out...

...but walks past him and talks to Thingie. He looks... not sure what to do?

Jack Crane's Australian... *g* Or... well, he's not English, anyway! Ha - he's disguised Bodie's physical by giving it to everyone else - sarky bugger! *g*

Eek - the lads all Rambo on the climbing frame - ah, the eighties!... Doyle's not giving Bodie a break either - they're still joking with each other, mind...


The computer room - oh gawd, that gorgeous light on them both - it shouldn't work, but it does...


Hee - and Ross. I like her - she doesn't take any crap from the lads, and they're so good at giving it out. She beats them... and Doyle appreciates it - "What are you doing tonight?"... Bodie joins them, looking all dark and brooding... Ross wins, waits until they leave before she smiles a bit at Doyle, but then focuses on Bodie again...

Doyle's in a good mood suddenly - cheered up by Bodie joking around maybe? Ah, Doyle's legs around a motorbike... *g* And they both go roaring off - though Bodie's picked up a tail...

Bodie at The Chequered Flag - looking a touch insalubrious... Hee - I like 7.7 - who calls himself 77, and does a lovely version of the Speaking Clock... *g* "Pre-cisely"!

Doyle is very casual when Cowley comes up to his place - as if Cowley often makes social calls... He's looking good in that shirt...

Doyle's got a briefcase! Now there's a thing - why would he need a briefcase..? Is anyone else fascinated by the idea of the part of his job that requires a briefcase? *g*


He's being very familiar with Cowley in fact - and Cowley very naturally bats his hands away and ties his tie for him, and Doyle lets him without any qualms... Cowley's friendly with both of them, but this is very very! Doyle unwary - too happy so that he's relaxing more around Cowley?! *g*

Oh... and Cowley forces him to admit that Bodie's not doing well, and all the energy goes out of him...


Cowley and Jennifer Black are in Windsor! People have pointed it out, but I've never recognised it before! How far out do the lads go for their dates..?! Or is that just where she was supposed to be having lunch?

Back on exercises - Doyle on a bike with sidecar, Bodie storming... something. *g* I wonder if the people playing the bad guys are being given points if they win?!

Doyle calls Bodie "sunshine" again... Very easy with it, he is, though a bit frustrated? Bodie looking... stoic? He knows he's screwing up, knows he's got to do something about it...

Bodie with Shu-Sai... looks lovely in that scarf too - the light on his profile, ever so perfect...


Sounds as if Bodie might have gone to Shu-Sai asking for advice too - Shu-Sai tells him that whatever it is he has to do, he's got to find a way to do it - as if he's giving an answer...

The Chequered Flag is close to Bodie's gym, apparently... Jennifer isn't impressed! The bikers aren't either... Bodie even less so - my but what he does to that car - oh, but I've finally worked it out! That's the moment! Yes! I've always wondered not why he punches in the car door, but why he smiles at Jennifer like that afterwards - is he trying to frighten her? She's worried! But it's the moment, isn't it - the perfect moment where he knows what he has to do about Billy, and the thought becomes pure motion - the car door crumples, the sandcastle falls... *g*


See, this is why I love watching Pros still - no matter how many times you see an ep, they leave so much for you to think about, so much to watch, that there are layers upon layers upon layers still to discover! Now, someone's bound to jump in and say "You mean, you've only just worked it out - well, duh!" but you know, I don't care, because I've just had the joy of doing that rather than the other joys I'm more usually focussing on in that scene... *vbg*

More gunfire, more exercises - a shout from Doyle... shadows and shouts in the dark - and a roar as he fumbles the reload! And hee - makes excuses... he's cross with himself though - love the leap over sandbags to stand beside Bodie, who's prepared, and efficient, and suddenly doing perfectly on the course... Oh, and Doyle's all reluctantly impressed and sort of proud that Bodie's done so well - look at his face, at his smile!

Bodie seems to be happy, joking with him, and then... the watergun. Doyle's amused, but... not comfortable...

Back in the computer room - that lovely light - hee - look how pleased Bodie is with himself again! And he's sharing it with Doyle... oh, and see the way they look at each other after Doyle's "as far as finishing goes he's the end" joke - both of them pleased with Bodie again... and their lovely double act for Ross, just pure glee! *g*


How luxurious is that meeting - glasses of malt whisky all around, is it?! And no wonder Ross gets crotchety - how patronising is Crane?! Prat! And the other doctor explaining Bodie's psychology to Ross-the-psychologist! Double prat...

Ah, the yellow jeep, and - ooh, matching bike! Bodie stroppy cos he's lost though... and Doyle not going to side with the girl against Bodie, no matter how frustrated he is...

Love the computer security that Ross uses to get into the system! How fun were the eighties?! *g*

The girl doesn't know much about the lads - love Doyle's story about being secretaries... while Bodie's typing up, Doyle's taking down... bondage and romance... what has he got on his mind...? I'm personally convinced that Doyle was getting dressed up to go out with Bodie when Cowley turned up... *vbg*

Ah, and the enduro - Doyle's not impressed! It looks alot like the enduros that my brother used to ride in - all noise and exhausts and blokes enjoying themselves! Oooh - and Bodie's acknowledging that Doyle's good at them... hee - he's wearing the same sort of kit my brother wore too - Bro's bike was Kawasaki green though... Ha - there weren't so many ineffectual flag wavers trying to stop the bikers riding through either!

Girl is very familiar with Bodie, and vice versa - he had his hand very familiarly on her shoulder, and then she very comfortably climbs around him and stands behind him... maybe she's the date Doyle was getting ready for the other night... as well as Bodie... *g*

Oh - Goldilocks again! Bodie calls Doyle "Goldilocks" again! *vbg* And Bodie offers Doyle phone numbers if he wins, Girl is not impressed, and Doyle throws something at Bodie! Heee!

And they're off around the course... It's about as muddy as the ones Bro was in as well - he always used to come out coated and gleeful! (Sometimes he won too - even once or twice when his best mate was riding, who's current world champion - they ride hard on the Island... *g* *brags on behalf of Island (and brother *g*)*)

Aww - muddy Doyle, the winner! *g* Very muddy... *vbg* Doyle's sussed out that something's up with Bodie, to do with the lads who were riding to block him out... that he was a target in Bodie's place... But Bodie's happy - Bodie's hands are all over Doyle, and this is what we like, so...



The Widowmaker... I made Bro watch this section, and he says the Widowmaker is pretty do-able - not easy, but do-able... Oh, Doyle's mad at Bodie - "This's not for you" - Bodie growling back "I know..." - they both know what they're really saying though, don't they - it's right there... oh, Doyle's mad with Bodie he won't even watch Bodie do something so dangerous... oh, just... ohhhhh (Also, that's just how I came off a bike and smashed me leg - I looped the loop... *headdesk*)

And Bodie's off... he doesn't make it, and did you hear the biker's taunt? "You'll never do it like that, sunshine!" Billy doesn't make it... Bodie does... and back down again... Oh, and Billy back down too, and not in a good way... St John's heading over... he's alive though - was Bodie hoping the ride would kill him?

The lads together as they're leaving the enduro... Doyle poking at Bodie and vice-versa... and Bodie rides very slowly past the bikers... Doyle's frustrated enough that he's given up on Bodie - except that he hasn't, because as soon as Cowley finds him he's off on his bike... (Hah! And hee - didn't even realise what I'd written there 'til I checked it over... *g*) Bodie doesn't discriminate between who he's hitting though... Doyle's down... up again and fighting back, pulls them off Bodie until all that's left is King Billy, tight in Bodie's neck-lock... and Cowley and William's girlfriend... Cowley waits until she's given Bodie no reason to kill Billy, until Bodie's let him go, before he lets Bodie go... Bodie chooses Cowley's form of justice over his own in the end...

Oh, Cowley's not happy with Bodie at all! And the lads a bit discomforted to think that Cowley might well have pulled that trigger... oh, I see a serious night together for them...


But how fab is that ep?! I really like it - they're together, for all that Bodie's blocking Doyle out as well... There's so much to play with as well - why this, and why that, and what's happened between them there... *vbg* But mostly they like each other, and there's so much more to it - they're just... I've said it before, I'll no doubt say it again cos it's true - they're so together, so a part of each other in this ep! *vbg*

And now - bed, and then tomorrow lovely lovely flist-catching-up, and I'm going to catch up on The Acorn Syndrome too! It just doesn't feel right, having missed one...

Hope you've all had a fab week-and-a-bit - how are you?! *vbg*

Date: Sunday, 21 September 2008 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msmoat.livejournal.com
Lovely photos--I do like it when I can see what people are squeeing about. *g*

Oh... and Cowley forces him to admit that Bodie's not doing well, and all the energy goes out of him...
Yeah, isn't it great? I love that scene.

I agree that Pros episodes--especially ones like this one--leave so much room for backstory and possibilities. It's why we can write lots of stories about the same episodes, and never have the definitive one. It's all...possibilities. And each time you watch, you see more, or see things a little differently. Hence years and years and years of obsession. *g*

Thank you! It's great to see you back for Pros Watch!

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Hee - pics are good, aren't they?! *g* And I missed posting pics, and posting ProsWatch, and I'm going to catch up on Acorn Syndrome too! *g*

Date: Sunday, 21 September 2008 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siskiou.livejournal.com
Very enlightening!

I had not put together that the car door assault was "the moment" and that Bodie was back to normal in the training exercise after that.
It clears up several of my rambling questions! :)

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
I can't believe I've watched and liked WJ so often/much, and I've only just now sussed the car door bit! Mind you, there's nothing says I'm right... but it works for me too! *g*

Date: Monday, 22 September 2008 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com
You've pointed out some good discussion points. But all in all, it's not a favorite episode of mine. I'm not crazy about Ross and I was always curious why Doyle had to ride the race when Bodie is quite capable of it. I know he was taunting the bikers, but still, I suppose I've missed some big symbolism because of that.

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Lol - oh, there's always alot to discuss in the eps, isn't there?! *g*

I always figure that Doyle is more into bikes in canon, than Bodie is, and that he's into riding enduro/trials more than Bodie is, and so Bodie figured he'd have a better chance of beating King Billy... and that Bodie accepts Doyle so naturally as an extension of himself that beating Billy through Doyle is just as good as beating him himself... he has to ride the Widowmaker himself though, cos he doesn't want to risk Doyle's getting hurt for his cause... Well, that's what I reckon, anyway... *g*

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com
It's as good a reason as any. I did think Bodie didn't ride until that point, so I thought it was rather strange.

Do you think Doyle never rode motorcross before although he has the bike and gear? It could have been his first time, I suppose.

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Do you think Doyle never rode motorcross before although he has the bike and gear? It could have been his first time, I suppose.
Ooh I'm confused now - why would you think Doyle had never ridden like that before, especially since he had all the gear? Or did you mean Bodie?!

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com
The reason I wondered if Doyle rode a race before is this:

SALLY: What's the matter? You rode brilliantly.

DOYLE: Yeah, that little lot rode to block me out. It's very dangerous.

If he'd rode before, he'd know it was dangerous. Almost any sort of race, somebody will try to knock you out of the running. He says it's dangerous as if he didn't realise it. And why is that more dangerous than running down an alley with bad guys shooting at you or defusing a bomb?

Maybe Doyle likes his down time not to be dangerous. But motocross is inherently dangerous anyway. I don't know. Doyle just seemed almost -- surprised? irritated? at racing. I can't explain what seems off with Doyle, so I'm going to say it's he's irritated at being used since there's no other reason that I can figure.

But if he agreed to the race, why is he irritated? I'm talking myself in circles. I need food...

Date: Monday, 22 September 2008 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunray45.livejournal.com
Yay!! She's back and on Pros Watch again.

It's weird that Doyle's girl, Sally, doesn't know what job he is in, but Bodie's Jennifer does, as she is not surprised when Cowley mentions CI5.

Love all the points you have made. Doyle was very supportive of Bodie all through and even right at the end he waded in and finished cleaning up the bikies so he could get the one on Bodie's back. Still think Doyle is really angry with Bodie though.

Thanks for the great review.

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Yeay! *vbg*

I get the impression that Bodie and Jennifer are old friends in the same way that Bodie and Inger are in The Gun... sort of friends who sometimes sleep together, and so know each other in a more long-term way than the lads know Sally, who they've perhaps just met. Although she's supposed to be Doyle's girl (presumably!), Bodie's awfully touch-y with her too, and she's completely accepting of him doing it...

Date: Monday, 22 September 2008 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solosundance.livejournal.com
welcome back and cheers for the nice WJ piccies. Y'know I feel differently about this ep every time I see it. I loathed it at first, wishing Doyle had been more supportive, snoring through all the motorbiking stuff .. and then later on I really liked the psychobabble and the possibilities for putting their mad world in context and getting some really good character and relationship stuff out of it. I only half enjoyed it last night! There's some fab scenes though - I love the computer-room particularly tho I'm not sure Dr Ross would have had a natural home in CI5 if she was so scathing about the boys-toys aspect of their job! I agree with you on the car door too ... Bodie really didn't need to do the devil-smile thing. It would have been way more effective if he'd been expressionless, or not looked at the minister's stepdaughter (or whoever the hell she is) at all. Of course, in any case, after exhibiting such ravingly unstable behaviour 3.7 would have been stood down asap ... Thanks for the great review, and guuuuh ... muddy lads ... *g*

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Yeay for being back! *g*

I think I must have a background h/c thing going on with this ep, cos I've always totally gone with hurt-Bodie and hurt-Doyle and that they're both behaving slightly strangely as a result of Bodie's stress etc... I have much happiness imagining the following comfort of all that... *g*

I guess Bodie was only ravening in front of Jennifer Black though, and I got the impression that she was fairly peeved with Cowley asking her to spy on him, and trying to manipulate her like that, so maybe she wouldn't have said anything...

If I was Kate Ross I'd want to smack the lot of them - even if she is a bit of a snotty academic... *g*

And guuuuuuh - muddy lads... *vbg*

Date: Monday, 22 September 2008 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schnuffi.livejournal.com
Not one of my favs with Bodie being not quite himself but it certainly does have its moments. The lads in cammo, the lads playing with computer (those eyes!), the lads on bikes, Doyle covered in mud... Yup, definitely some moments *G* I still wish for Bodie to wrap his legs around Doyle's neck while he's up on those monkey bars... *sigh*

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
So many people say they don't seem to like this! Makes me wonder - what do you think is Bodie's "normal self"?

And yeah... the boys in mud... *vbg*

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schnuffi.livejournal.com
Bodie's usually always able to concentrate on the job. Not like him to keep fucking things up. Especially if it means danger to Doyle in a real scenario. Too much psychological crap talking too from too many people. I'd rather have more lads and less Dr. Ross *BG*

Date: Monday, 22 September 2008 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] norfolkdumpling.livejournal.com
Hmmmm...lots to think about - thanks!

that gorgeous light on them both - it shouldn't work, but it does...

So true!

why would he need a briefcase..?

Well, you know...sometimes a little black book just isn't big enough *g*

I just love the idea of them as secretaries for a romance novelist :D

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
That icon so makes me think of Christmas!

And yes - I love the idea of them as secretaries like that too, and come to think of it, I'm surprised no one written a fic... *g*

Date: Monday, 22 September 2008 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draycevixen.livejournal.com

I have to admit that the things that always stick with me from this episode are the tie, the door and Doyle's muddy outfit... and here they all are.

That's the way the door punching always struck me too. I've always been fascinated by the male habit of beating on something while working things out... Erm... that just doesn't look right... *g*

Thanks!

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
There, I knew someone would be saying "I already knew that!" about the door-punching! *g*

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draycevixen.livejournal.com

Nah, it's just one of the lovely things about Pros watch, just always nice to find someone else saw it that way too. *g*

Date: Monday, 22 September 2008 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callistosh65.livejournal.com
Missed you!! I don't think I like this episode quite as much as you do.*g* I agree there are some great moments and scenes - Cowely and Doyle is a terrific one, with Doyle so blatantly covering for his partner every second, and yes, as you point out, when Cowley forces the truth out of him, all his energy and bounce for his evening out just disappears, doesn't it? Thankl you for the pics, too. You got some great hands on shots there..*g*

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Lol - I think there are alot of people who don't like this ep as much as I do! And I rather suspect that it's mostly people who say they prefer Bodie as a character... *g*

And yeah... hands-on shots are my favourites... *vbg*

Date: Monday, 22 September 2008 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosie55.livejournal.com
Not especially a favourite ep of mine but fun to read everyone's thoughts!
Did anyone notice that on University Challenge tonight one of the questions which made me look up quickly was "What did Francis Bacon describe as "a kind of wild justice, which the more man's nature runs to, the more ought law to weed it out.” The answer was, of course revenge and you can just imagine this being the sort of quote Cowley would know. So the title suddenly makes a lot of sense! A very timely question on UC, that!

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
I love reading what people think of different eps! I can't get over finding out that people don't like WJ though - how is it only me that adores it?!

Excellent timing for the University Challenge question too - I missed it, but it's just got that lovely serendipity to it, so that we're all thinking the same things at the same time... *happy sigh* Thanks for saying!

Date: Monday, 22 September 2008 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biani.livejournal.com
It´s really amazing the things you notice - until today I never spotted that smack on Bodie´s leg, but it´s undoubtedly there which makes the episode even slashier now! Wonderful review as always, thank you so much!

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Ah, thank you for stopping by! *g* And oh yes - I remember still the moment I first saw that leg-smack, we'd had a Pros Proliferation Challenge, where people taking part posted something Pros-y every day for a week, and there were so many fab posts that were like that - I was very chuffed to be able to add the leg-smack, cos people always think that it's all Bodie touching Doyle, and it's so not - it happens the other way around alot, only Doyle's so quick that it's easy to miss! *g*

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biani.livejournal.com
*sniff* If I only had been bitten by the Pros bug years ago. I have got the sad feeling that I missed so much already :-(.

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
Not a favourite episode of mine, either, I'm afraid, but you've got lots of interesting points here. *And*, more important to my shallow self, you've got one of the best photos I've never noticed before and that's Doyle leaning on something and speaking to Bodie so seductively. Lovely! Thanks.

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
Oh, and the watergun bit, I thought Doyle looked more bemused by the whole thing and then the laughter in the background made me wonder if it was an unscripted joke on Doyle, thought up by Bodie and others - maybe as a bit of a dare?

Date: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
Oh, and the car door scene, I'm really glad you've concentrated my mind on your particular interpretation....I'm honestly not sure if I'd ever thought that before or not - I just can't remember - but his grin and his girlfriend's reaction have always irritated me and it's that kind of thing which make it a non-favcourite episode for me, one which I still enjoy becaause I enjoy them all, but not a favourite!

Date: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saintvic.livejournal.com
I have to say that I find the bit with Cowley and Doyle a bit puzzling, it always seems just that little bit too familiar for me. Love your summaries they always put me back in the episode itself.

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