Rabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbit...

[byslantedlight]

On the way to work this morning I passed the bizarre little shooting range/polo ground place by the roundabout, and through the winter-shorn trees I saw a row of about a dozen little tommies, all in camoflage - with rain capes and backpacks - lying down on a little rise of grass and peering through their rifle scopes at a set of targets! It was just like on t'telly! Nine-thirty on a misty-rain wet Friday morning... awww! Guess who I was imagining out there with them? Ah, lads in training... Ooh, and there's various lads-on-manouevres fic actually, isn't there... Hmmn... Army Games by Sebastian... erm... what else?!

I'm feeling... maybe in a mood to write a wee Pros ficlet, between jobs? I have longer fic to write, but I need to concentrate on that, so... would anyone like to give me a prompt? A mood, an atmosphere for the lads to be in? A random word or two? Not a plot, cos half the fun for me is figuring out how the lads get to the prompt, but... would anyone like?

HG... has anyone been in touch with HG recently? Actually had emails/letters or anything from her? See, ages ago she sent me some letterzines on loan, and I've been trying to get in touch with her for ages now to send them back. It's been long enough that I've not wanted to just randomly send them to the address where we were corresponding before, but she's not replied to any of my attempts to get in touch, which seems unlike her from our previous (admittedly relatively brief) emails and all... I tried via her Auto Hatstand posts and all, but no reply... I'm sure she wants these letterzines back, but I'd hate for them to get lost... And it occurs to me that anyone can set up an AH account and call themselves anything - I could set up as Jane, nick her stories from Proslib, or scan them from zines, and put them up, pretending to be her, so... eek. Does anyone have any news?

Oh... stuff! My flist is full of SPN and other fandoms, and I spend so much more time scrolling down these days (ah, poor little finger... *g*) but even more bizzarely, people are doing odd things with DW, and I'm going to be forced to decide how to deal with this, aren't I... On the one hand, it's weird having posts on my lj to which you can't comment, and instructions to go somewhere else if you want to talk to them, knowing that if they then talk to you back you're not going to know about it unless you randomly check their DW account... And apparently I'm not readable in DW, DW people still have to physically come to lj to do that, and... and none of that is going to make me move to DW - I'm happy here with Pros in lj, and... and I hate to "lose people" but on the other hand, I like the fact that Pros lj is a community, and when that's all split up again and again it's... something else entirely... and... *sighs* Oh, it's kind of like friends moving away to another city, isn't it! You know that in theory you can still keep in touch, but... Only these gradual moves are a bit different actually - some of my flist moved away completely, and I thought oh but got used to not seeing them around. This other way around is... disturbing. It's like someone moved away and then made the effort to write and phone and stuff, but is now saying cool, but now you have to come and visit me if you ever want to chat..., which is a whole different thing... I'm more of a rip-the-bandaid-off kind of girl, I guess... Gargh. Which really means I should just defriend DW-ers who move away completely, shouldn't I... *sighs* Is anyone else worritting about this?

I friended myself. Which is kind of weird, but it's also kind of a good shortcut to replying to people in my own posts, cos I have my friends page open all the time... What d'you reckon, will I get better about it all?!

Aaaand... I've kind of been reading around my PhD again, a bit, and feeling quite... you know... interested again... *g* Be a bugger if I get all interested and then the funding doesn't come through, mind... I'm getting very bored with being boring, though... *g*

And Pros on the big screen! Pros on a boat! MS back in Windsor! Wheeeee!

We have rain. Many, many raindrops on my office window... that's cool. But it'll be nicer when I'm home and cosy...

See - rabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbit... *g*

Comments

[sc-fossil.livejournal.com]

I know HG is around because I had an email from her in the past week or so thru TAH when I commented on a story.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Well that's good to know - perhaps she just didn't get my message, I shall try again...

[lukadreaming.livejournal.com]

Hee! We'll convert you to Primeval yet where there are lots of lovely soldiers in black, with strategically-placed thigh straps *vbg*.

I haven't had the DW thing yet. I did set up a DW account and back up a load of LJ onto it, but I haven't used it since and I'm not even sure I remember the password *g*. Primeval is firmly LJ-rooted and Pros seems to be as well, so I'm not fussed if people go to DW. I just shan't bother to follow *g*.

Yay for the PhD! I had a day's research on mine on Wednesday and came home all bouncy and energised by what I'd found.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Hee - I'll take our Pros-y lads with strategically-placed thigh straps any day... *g*

Yeah, I'm not so fussed about people going to DW like that either (though I think it's kind of a shame when it means a relatively small community is split even further) - I just didn't follow, as you say, when people did at first. But then it's this other thing, where I can still see them in my flist, but I can't interact with them there... I guess I think of my flist as people who I chat to occasionally - some much more occasionally than others, if we're more on the edge of each other's interests, but... still people that I chat to, rather than watch on telly and send occasional letters (or some much better metaphor... *g*) I dunno... I should just defriend, I guess...

And whee PhD! I've been trying to think of ways to get research time without losing too many holiday days, but... I wish archives were open at the weekend! Well, the ones that I need... *g* Yeay reseearch - it should be bouncy!

[lukadreaming.livejournal.com]

I've purposely kept my flist small, as I'm nosy and like to know what people are up to! There are a couple on there who I don't really know and don't say much. In the end, I decided to leave them where they were and to customise distribution lists for locked posts rather than defriending anyone.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Lol - see, I'm mostly happy to have people reading what I'm up to, but I tend to think that we should probably have said something to each other somewhere along the way - and mostly we have... My fic is all elsewhere, and unless you want to know me me there's really no reason to be here in the first place - and vice versa, of course...

But then it comes undone a bit too when people move onto other fandoms, and suddenly my lovely Pros-y flist isn't a lovely Pros-y flist any more... it's got other kinds of loveliness in many other ways, but... I really really don't care about SPN, for example and yet everyone seems to be posting comment posts for new eps or something... But then... Oh, *head hurts*...

A couple of times I've found out that someone's filtered me off their flists for some bizarre reason (I never know, why not just defriend me? Presumably they want to know what I'm up to, but don't want me to know what they're up to? Odd...) and when that happens I do just defriend people, cos... that's not friendly... *g* I'd understand if it was filtering off particular posts, but when you're filtered off all of them?! People's relationships and views of lj are eternally fascinating!

[lukadreaming.livejournal.com]

I don't post loads of private stuff, but when I do it's usually f-locked. I only use filters for super-duper private stuff and the only people not on that filter are about three who I can't remember how I acquired them as friends -- it was probably early on before I realised that you don't *have* to friend people back *g*. I've never met them in RL, they never comment on my posts and rarely post on their own LJs.

I probably should defriend, but it looks so unfriendly *g*.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Hee - it does feel unfriendly - I think that's probably my problem with the DW movers. They move to DW, but then I have to be the "bad guy" and defriend them... *sighs*

I do like my flist - I think most people comment now and then - sometimes more then than now, but that's okay... sometimes we had a little flurry of commenting, and now we're over that excitement and quieter, and sometimes people seem to have stopped posting and I really should go and see what's happening, but then I don't mind if people sort of move away for a bit and then move back, so that's cool too...

I have a couple of people who are sort of lurkers - but I know them from other contexts than lj, and have chatted to them there, so that's okay... One person amuses me highly by checking my lj every day, but never ever commenting - and not even emailing me any more, except through proxies... But that's okay too, I know who she is! *g*

I do filtering a wee bit - friendsonly if it's a bit personal, "closer friends" if it's what I think of as quite personal... But I don't like mucking around with that too much either, cos... cos it feels unfriendly... *g*

Then again, I was wandering around sussing out the DW system yesterday, when all this came up, and although I liked the idea of it at first, I think having three different reading lists (sort of friends/readers/network (can't remember how that works though, cos it's not a place you can read, say ljs) would get old fast too... I like having people in one place, sort of like a big happy street... *g* My community. *vbg

[probodie.livejournal.com]

Hee I love the thought of men in camos, so...prompt...Bodie and Doyle in camos, on a rain-soaked weekend away somewhere in the wilds of Britain. Anything else is yours *g*

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Oh yeay - prompt! And ooooh - the lads wet and on their own, eh...? *vbg* Right then...

[probodie.livejournal.com]

I know it's a hard job I've set you...*eg*

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

...but someone's gotta do it... *g*

[caffyolay.livejournal.com]

Nowt so queer (if you get my drift ;-)) as LJ is there? I personally don't follow people who shove off to DW (I read that as Dr. Who first and wondered what possible *odd* things people were doing with him *cough*)or wherever. They're welcome to go but I really can't be arsed to follow them from place to place.

SPN is hugely popular it seems - quite a few on my flist are into it. I don't mind other people's fandoms but if there's too much detail then I do tend to scroll through. Especially if, as with SPN, I'm not interested. Truthfully, I tend to be more interested in general posts these days, family news, photos, books, health etc. And posts which make me think or tell me something. :-)

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Hee - nowt so queer indeed... *g*

The funny thing with some of the DWers is that they've sort of put the onus of defriending on me, when they're the ones who're going off somewhere, and somehow it feels a bit funny... Ah well, I'd better just get over it, eh? *g*

And ack for DreamWeaver (I use for my website), DoctorWho and now DreamWidth - you've gotta be in the right headspace for the context to start with, I find!

Lj housekeeping is tricky! I always hope people will feel free to defriend me if I'm boring them... I'd not be offended... *g*

[aerye.livejournal.com]

Y'know, I absolutely get where you are coming from on this. I was reading something last week – something Pros related, although now I'm not sure if it was the newsletter or one of the comms – but I remember thinking, wow. There really is a Pros community on LJ now. I remember when people on a list I was on were so resistant to LJ, and now there is this thriving little community.

So moving wasn't something I did lightly, and I know I'm going to lose people, and I get all of the reasons I'm going to lose them – my recent multi-never-met-a-fandom-I-didn't-like craziness (I mean, really - American Idol? Did you slip and fall in the bathtub, Susan? ::g::) The complications for commenting if you don't have a DW or an Open ID account. The fact that you may have been more inclined to comment if there was a comment thread you were interested in – which now you can only read by going over to DW and why click on an extra link?

So I get all of those reasons. But the fact is the core of my community – and I don't mean a particular fandom community but the people I have known through various fandoms for many years – is moving to DW and interested in strongly supporting DW. And so I'm going where that very individualized, more-personal-than-fannish community is. And selfishly hoping some people will follow me there.

But I totally get it why some people won't! ::g::

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

See, that's the thing isn't it - we're all our own communities too, and they cross and double-cross and re-cross, and... *g* You're definitely not the only person on my flist doing the DW thing (I wouldn't be all dilemmad if it was just you... *g*) and I can totally see why some people want to, and I never say never either, it's just... kind of sad when people go in different directions... Lj's a funny thing (and DW and the lot of 'em!) cos it does have that personal we-know-each-other thing about it, if you use it in one way, and yet we don't know in other ways, so... It's just all very hmmn to me!

I was kind of interested to know what other people think about it all, and how they're dealing with it - seems to be a pretty clean split though, if people go then they go, or else it's getting a DW account too... And I was going to waffle all this in a comment last night, but I realised I wasn't quite sure where I was going with it, so decided not to inflict... or on any of the other DWers still on my flist... except that now I have, but at least not by cluttering up someone else's... erk... blog? *g*

So... I will miss your posts, cos they're fun and sunshine-y, and I don't always comment if they seem more personal than we are, but it's nice to know that we can chat... so I guess now that we can't... oh, I'm so failing to commit here, aren't I! *sighs* But I suspect it's where our very individualised more personal than fannish community are going to part, and that's sad... but I hope you have fun and sunshine (and snow!) in yours, even if I don't see you there!

[solosundance.livejournal.com]

I'm happy here with Pros in lj ... me too! I'm kind of fingers-in-ears lalalalaing over DW. Every so often I wonder if there's loads of cool people having a lovely time over there without me but ... oh well :) it's bad enough having two lj accounts (although that works up to a point), never mind having another ... space, another community and posts crossing over and people being here and not there or there and not here and .... argh! lalalalalalalalalalalalalala *g*

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

I think there's been the odd Pros-yness over there, but nothing huge so far... I just know that I can't cope with more than one "social networking space", so I'm not even thinking about it... Every now and then I wonder about an lj for phd-ish things, or more personal things, but... nah. *g* Too much signing in and out... You! You have two ljs?! See, I think that's well-brave... *g* I shall sing with you about DW - lalalaalalalalalalaalaaaaa! *g*

[mabiana.livejournal.com]

I don't know - there have been so many LJ clones over the years and I can remember at least two which were supposed to be The Place Where All Fandom Will Move to, and it didn't happen either, and after a while hardly anyone posted there anymore... I'm rather unconvinced that now suddenly DW actually will be the one for which it works.

Having said that, Just In Case I actually have a DW account *g*, and still find people restricting comments to DW reduces the likelihood I will do so significantly, not only because I keep forgetting my password and can't look it up when I read lj during lunchbreak. I get that they want to have all comments in one place, but still I'd think if you really want comments, it would be logical to make it as convenient as possible for the commenter?

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Yeah, there have been lots, and one or two are still going, but none of them have eclipsed lj... I wish DW well, it sounds like it's based on good principles - just as Lj originally was... I definitely can't afford to pay for 2 sites though, and I do like the various paid for features, and find them reasonably priced on lj - and I don't see ads. And if I do work with a free lj, then I guess I'd figure I was getting it for free, so...

I just know that I'm rubbish enough at keeping up with lj and emails at the moment, I can't throw something else into the mix and hope to stay sane - I tend to think I should be spending less time on the gorgeous internet, so...

I can understand people who want to move to DW wanting to move completely too though - especially as I just said I didn't want to split my own lj-ing... I don't mind the extra click to get there and comment, but I don't think there's a way of getting notification that they've commented back, so... it'd mean checking in over and over again to find out if they ever do, and... just... But it's a shame... I liked the togetherness of the lj community...

[ancastar.livejournal.com]

I'm happy on LJ for the time being. That being said, I did create an Open ID account because I don't want to lose sight of people like aerye. I enjoy their conversations too much and want to have the ability to comment when the spirit moves me.

I'm also happy with the multi-fandom nature of my flist. It's bound to happen. People aren't static. We grow and change, and our interests are bound to grow and change with us. I like seeing what people are talking about, even if it's something I may not be directly involved with. I'm nosy that way. :-)

That being said, I'm fairly certain I'm one of the chief Supernatural posting people on your flist. The fandom has admittedly swallowed up my interest. If you want to defriend me, I'll understand. No harm, no foul. Everyone has to do what they have to do.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

An Open ID account doesn't mean that you get notifications of the conversation though, does it? That's the bit that I think its a shame to lose - that sense of ongoing chat...

People do grow and change, of course they do - that's life! And sometimes we grow apart, which I always think is sad. It's natural, just like death is!, but it's sad... *g* And I'm just not currently multifandom (even when I was enjoying TW I wasn't really multifandom as such), so I'm going to get alot of this! It'd be strange not to see you on my flist now and then! And you've been posting about snow too! (Btw, it works the other way around too - if you're done enough with Pros to want to defriend me and be spared my witterings, then do feel free! I just always assume people will, if they want to... *g*)

[ancastar.livejournal.com]

(Btw, it works the other way around too - if you're done enough with Pros to want to defriend me and be spared my witterings, then do feel free! I just always assume people will, if they want to... *g*)

No, it's like I said in my original post--I like how multi-fannish my flist is. It's interesting to me to be introduced to new things or to be reminded of old favorites. I'm not as active in Pros as I once was, but I still love the lads.

You'd mentioned Supernatural specifically and said you'd had no interest in that (Which is totally fine! I'd never force the Winchesters on you.), so I figured I'd offer you the option. I'm pretty head over heels for Sam and Dean, so that's probably what you'll be seeing from me in the near future.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

I tend to glance at the fandoms my flist posts about, but I've not yet been grabbed by any... I clearly have a very narrow idea of fandom and me compared to most other people!

I've watched a couple of SPN eps, and it just hasn't grabbed me I'm afraid - hey ho! The same thing's happened with other fandom rushes before, mind - I guess I have so many more people on my flist now though, that it's all more obvious to me!

[callistosh65.livejournal.com]

You know, we all drift around in this weird and wonderful thing called fandom. I was a die-hard, one fandom only(S&H) gal for years - and now I barely read or write there any more. I still have a few S&H'ers on my f-list, folk I've bonded with on the personal side, and the same goes for The Sentinel.

I get this scrolling thing, I do. And I get an unwieldy f-list (believe me, I'm in SPN, I get an unwieldy f-list!). Just recently I contacted a couple of folk who are quite prolific posters, but who I have drifted apart with in fandoms. I explained I was defriending them and why, and we had a very nice, very civil hug and a back-slap and parted ways amicably.

So, this is my long convoluted way of saying if the SPN is getting too much for you, then by all means take folk like me off your friends list. It's okay, I won't be offended! Anything Pros that I write will get linked up at the comms. And the BB is its own thing anyway.

I honestly can't see my passion for SPN waning anytime soon.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Darn it, I'd just written most of my reply when my mouse did it's jumpy thing, randomly clicked, and took me back a page... stoopid mouse... Where was I?

Yes! Things change, and we drift around, the world and fandom and everything, that's what life's like! But it doesn't stop me being sad about it, sometimes, especially when there are big changes being made... And of course it must happen all the time when you skip between fandoms! I'm not in the place where I'm doing that, though, my wee TW holiday aside, so...

It would be odd not to have you on my flist, but that works the other way too, you know - if I'm too Pros-y and babbly when what you're loving now is SPN, then feel free to deflist me (I just always assume that people will!)

[callistosh65.livejournal.com]

if I'm too Pros-y and babbly when what you're loving now is SPN, then feel free to deflist me Not at all. I still consider myself very much in Pros. I thought I'd offer it up as an option to you, since you mentioned about being unhappy with the amount of SPN on your f-list. I'm certainly not unhappy with the amount of Pros on my f-list!

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Not unhappy about it, just... disinterested in it! I do think back reminiscently to the time when my flist was more Pros-y though, since that's what I originally came to lj for!

[miwahni.livejournal.com]

I have a DW account which I set up over a year ago, but I rarely go there; in fact I can't remember the last time I checked there. LJ is where all my favourite people are, and I hope they stay.
My journal isn't all Pros-y, though. It's mainly mundane, everyday things, with the odd sprinkling of fandom stuff. And that's what I enjoy seeing on my flist too. There are the comms for my daily fandom dose, and then there are the everyday slice-of-life journals that I really enjoy reading.
Yes, some people move on to different fandoms, but that's not all bad either imo. I've been pimped in to have a look at other fandoms because of the enthusiasm of flisters. I'd never have discovered The Mighty Boosh, for instance, if it wasn't for my flist.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

I like seeing mundane everyday things on my flist too - especially cos they're so gorgeously international, and generally written by smart, interesting people! *g* It's just the flood of ep reviews that comes up, so that my reading my flist means scrolling through (currently) tons of SPN posts!

I think my thing (at least at the moment) is that I'm not really into the idea of fandom as a whole - I adore Pros fandom, but I'm as likely to turn my next interest/obsession to something completely non-fandomish, so... Or maybe I've just not seen anything on telly that I want to "fan", cos I'm enjoying re-watching Northern Exposure right now... but I don't have any urge to write it or read it, or even necessarily talk alot about it... I guess I have a slightly narrower place in "fandom" than most people here do!